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Hi folks,
Background: After being with Sky for years andpaying $$ we bought a Humax Foxsat and used that to watch Freesat content. Foxsat recently becoming a bit flaky, so have replaced this with a Freeview Recorder (also by Humax). We are right on the edge of the service area for programmes transmitted from Emley Moor (for Yorkshire programming), and aren't line-of-sight to that transmitter (wrong side of a hill). The result is that we pick up off Belmont (which is line-of-sight) and get Yorkshire & Lincolnshire programming which isn't local. Both TV and Freeview box are set to Yorkshire - but often the picture breaks up or becomes blocky. This is when we used tp use the Freesat Humax box.
Thanks for reading thus far, now to the question(s)!
ThisTV ( SONY KDL-32W654A) has both connection for normal RF aerial and an F-connector (and satellite tuner) - although for some reason the satellite functionality isn't mentioned in SONY's documentation.
I have tuned the satellite portion of the TV - so now the guide shows 'General Satellite All Categories' at the top and the programme numbers are all 4-digit (such as BBC One being '0001'). This gives us access to BBC One (Yorkshire) on the TV (see picture below)
How do I switch the Guide back to Digital Terrestrial (i.e. the aerial connection) rather than the Satellite (i.e. dish)?
I seen to have tried every button / combination I can think of. Only got back to Digital Terrestrial by going to Settings > Digital Set-up > Digital Auto Tuning.
Kind regards
Zaph

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  • edited 09/10/19 - 14:26#2
    UPDATE:
    Whlst taking pictures of the screen, I tried a button I hadn't pressed before (namely the button marked 'DIGITAL' on the left-hand side of the remote just below the 'HOME' button.
    This allows you to flip between the Terrestrial tuner and the Satellite tuner as evidenced by this pic.
    Rather than leave the question unposted (as I had now resolved it) I thought I would continue in order to help anyone else with the same or similar issues.
    Zaph
    BTW I know that the pic in the first post has a later time (by 1 min) than the one in the second post (I had just discovered how to flip between the Satellite and Terrestrial tuners and was playing )
  • edited 09/10/19 - 14:23#3
    Hi folks,
    Background: After being with Sky for years andpaying $$ we bought a Humax Foxsat and used that to watch Freesat content. Foxsat recently becoming a bit flaky, so have replaced this with a Freeview Recorder (also by Humax). We are right on the edge of the service area for programmes transmitted from Emley Moor (for Yorkshire programming), and aren't line-of-sight to that transmitter (wrong side of a hill). The result is that we pick up off Belmont (which is line-of-sight) and get Yorkshire & Lincolnshire programming which isn't local. Both TV and Freeview box are set to Yorkshire - but often the picture breaks up or becomes blocky. This is when we used tp use the Freesat Humax box.
    Thanks for reading thus far, now to the question(s)!
    ThisTV ( SONY KDL-32W654A) has both connection for normal RF aerial and an F-connector (and satellite tuner) - although for some reason the satellite functionality isn't mentioned in SONY's documentation.
    I have tuned the satellite portion of the TV - so now the guide shows 'General Satellite All Categories' at the top and the programme numbers are all 4-digit (such as BBC One being '0001'). This gives us access to BBC One (Yorkshire) on the TV (see picture below)
    How do I switch the Guide back to Digital Terrestrial (i.e. the aerial connection) rather than the Satellite (i.e. dish)?
    I seen to have tried every button / combination I can think of. Only got back to Digital Terrestrial by going to Settings > Digital Set-up > Digital Auto Tuning.
    Kind regards
    Zaph

    I think you need @Nigel Goodwin to help you on this one... Sony sets and some of their vagaries are his area of expertise!
    Notwithstanding that - the fact you're getting flaky reception on both a Humax Freesat box and a Freeview box suggests you've got some issues with both your aerial and satellite dish that probably need looking at.
  • edited 09/10/19 - 14:24#4
    No need to Alan, all sorted now.
    See my second post (above).
    Regards
    Zaph
  • #5

    ThisTV ( SONY KDL-32W654A) has both connection for normal RF aerial and an F-connector (and satellite tuner) - although for some reason the satellite functionality isn't mentioned in SONY's documentation.

    It's not mentioned because the sets are pan-european, and it's basically a non-UK FTA satellite facility.
    However, if you're not bothered about having a proper UK EPG (although your EPG pictures don't look bad), and don't care that it seems to take three days to tune in it's a useful extra facility.
    As you've found, you essentially just toggle through the tuners (Analogue, Freeview, Satellite) - although older TV remotes might have a separate Analogue button?, and if you don't tune the analogue channels (on modern sets) the Analogue option isn't available.

How To Re-tune Your TV. There are a couple of ways to re-tune your TV, these are the automatic tuning method and the manual tuning method. Automatic tuning is fine most of the time but as I have already said you can run into problems with it. Analogue tuning. Press the HOME button of your remote controller. Go to the Settings menu, located at the bottom of the Home screen. Select Channel Setup → Analogue Setup → Analogue Auto Tuning.

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Sister has just moved into a new house with Taylor Wimpey.
She's got a Samsung UE40F6200 Smart LED TV.
She has a standard terrestrial aerial into the TV, length of aerial cable from wall to TV approx 2m.
The only other appliances connected to the TV are a DVD player via HDMI (plugged into HDMI 1 socket) and USB hard disk box (connected to USB socket).
TV initially tuned in ok; however when the DVD is switched on, it seems to 'knock' the tuned channels off - all the channels disappear. So she has to go back through the autotune process each time the DVD is used.
I've tried alternating the HDMI socket for the DVD from HDMI 1 to 2 to 3 and this doesn't fix the issue.
Just autotuned the channels again and it's only brought up 9 channels which makes me think it may be a signal strength issue; however not clear if there is a known problem with this model of TV and/or there's a workaround.

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  • #2
    Define channels disappear. Do you mean that when you call up the EPG or a channel list that it is completely empty with noting listed at all or that when you select a channel there is no picture and sound even though the channel name still appears in the list/EPG?
    There is absolutely no reason why using the HDMI should wipe the tuning memory. However using poorly screened HDMI and especially aerial cables can be a problem if the two are in close proximity. There can be interference between the two cables that can affect reception of Freeview.
    The cure is to use good quality cables and keep them separated from each other as much as possible.
    Also if the tuning memory was not wiped (ie the channels were still listed) you should not have retuned until you had eliminated every other possible cause of the problem.
    So first thing I would do is get a good quality well screened aerial cable and try that. Unplug the HDMI lead to avoid any possibility that it is causing interference. See if a retune now restores the channels. If it does DO NOT retune again!
    If the tuning memory is getting wiped then that implies the TV is faulty as it should not be happening.
    Unless of course it's not something silly like the TV is being switched to analogue mode which of course would show no channels.
  • #3
    By 'channels disappearing' we mean that the channels that are stored by the TV get wiped ie there are no channels in the EPG.
    We've tried a different TV and exactly the same thing happened - all stored channels get wiped from the EPG the minute the DVD player is switched on and the TV switches from Digital TV mode to HDMI DVD mode.
    Which means it must be one of the following?
    Aerial cable
    HDMI cable
    DVD player
    We're going to test all 3 of these individually/independently by swapping with other aerial/HDMI cables and another DVD player.
    Still odd though that two TV's are having their stored EPG channels completely wiped the minute the DVD player comes on.
  • #4
    There is no reason why that should be happening. There is no mechanism I can think of that would explain this.
    It would be very unusual for two TVs to show the exact same fault, though by no means impossible. Though it would be less likely if the two TVs are different makes and models.
    Are you absolutely certain that the TV is switching back to the digital tuner once the DVD is finished with? When switched to HDMI input it is entirely possible that you will get nothing showing in the EPG. Though on my LG telly I get a warning message to say that the EPG/channel list is only available in TV mode.
    Or it is switching back to the analogue tuner for whatever reason. Which again would show nothing.
  • #5
    Looks like HDMI cable. When we put DVD on and then back off, programmes stored are wiped.
    However, then taking the HDMI cable from the DVD out of the TV input connection, the channels reappear.
    How odd.
    Will get new HDMI cable and hopefully the problem will be solved.
  • #6
    Will get new HDMI cable and hopefully the problem will be solved.
    Either buy it online so that if it turns out not to be the problem you can return it, no questions asked, or get one in Poundland on the basis that it's cheap and you have hardly anything to lose. All those I have bought have been from Poundland and I have had no trouble at all with them.
  • #7
    Consider replacing the cheap thin coax fly-lead with a proper hand-made double-screened version; as well as keeping the aerial cable as far from the hdmi cables as you can.
    Cross-interference between the two is not unusual, but down to poor cable screening and/or proximity in 99/100 cases.
  • #8
    I have experienced similar once before, the Hdmi cable effecting freeview reception when the aerial and hdmi cords were touching. But in my example, I replaced the aerial cord and that also fixed the problem.
  • #9
    Looks like HDMI cable. When we put DVD on and then back off, programmes stored are wiped.
    However, then taking the HDMI cable from the DVD out of the TV input connection, the channels reappear.
    How odd.
    Will get new HDMI cable and hopefully the problem will be solved.
    Changing the cable probably won't make any difference.
    If there are no channels listed when the DVD is on and then they re-appear when the HDMI lead is removed then the channels are not being wiped. otherwise they would not re-appear unless you re-tuned.
    As I posted above the reason is possibly that the TV is simply not switching back to the tuner from the HDMI input.Yanking the HDMI lead out kicks the telly into switching back.
    There is probably a Source or Input button on the TV remote control, might have an icon of a square with an arrow across one edge pointing into the square. I would bet that if you press that a list of possible sources will appear and it says the TV is switched to the HDMI input. I would bet that if you changed it manually back to the tuner that the TV channels will re-appear.
    You could try turning HDMI control off (different manufacturers call it different things) but that probably means having to change input manually all the time depending on what you want to watch.
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